Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/17/2001 03:02 PM House HES

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HB 124-NURS.HOME/ASSISTED LIV. EMPLOYEES/VISITOR                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  announced that  the last item  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 124, "An  Act prohibiting nursing  facilities and                                                               
assisted  living  homes  from employing  or  allowing  access  by                                                               
persons with certain criminal backgrounds, with exceptions."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN HAND,  Staff to Representative Andrew  Halcro, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, came forth  on behalf of the sponsor of  HB 124.  He                                                               
noted that  the most current  committee substitute (CS)  draft is                                                               
Version P.  He explained that  HB 124 is a barrier-crime piece of                                                               
legislation  that  was  brought  about   in  part  because  of  a                                                               
legislative  audit,  which  mentioned  that  the  Pioneers'  Home                                                               
employs several  sex offenders.   Version P  removes a  number of                                                               
contentious  points that  were raised  by various  parties.   For                                                               
example,  contract workers,  non-employees, and  volunteers would                                                               
be removed  from being subject  to a  background check.   It also                                                               
removes crimes in  which the victim was a resident  [of a nursing                                                               
home] from the background check requirement                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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MR. HAND  continued, stating that  [Version P] adds Section  2 on                                                               
page  3,   line  11,  which   reads,  "(d)  A   nursing  facility                                                               
administrator   shall   provide   safeguards   to   ensure   that                                                               
contractors, volunteers,  and other persons entering  the nursing                                                               
facility  do not  abuse, neglect,  or exploit  a resident  of the                                                               
facility."  He added that this  has a mirror section for assisted                                                               
living facilities later in the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0101                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  asked  if the  concern  about  facilities                                                               
where the owner lives in the same household was taken care of.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAND answered that it has  been addressed by a slight change;                                                               
however, there  is not a  total agreement on it.   Part of  it is                                                               
because it is  under a receivership clause in the  latter part of                                                               
the  bill.    From  the  standpoint  of  the  administration,  it                                                               
wouldn't be  people taking  physical possession  of the  home; it                                                               
would just be administration of  the services of those residents.                                                               
The other option  would be that those people are  just kicked out                                                               
in the  street because the  government would be forced  to either                                                               
shut it down or take it  over, the alternative being that someone                                                               
would come in on a daily basis and run the home.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON stated  that in the last hearing of  this bill he had                                                               
a question  concerning what should be  done with a new  hire that                                                               
just "got  off the boat,"  since there would be  no instantaneous                                                               
criminal check.   He asked if  this was addressed in  the current                                                               
revisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAND responded  that  it  was point  that  was discussed  at                                                               
length regarding how in-state workers  would have some background                                                               
information  available   with  nursing  home   administrators  in                                                               
assisted living  home facilities.  [The  administrators] were all                                                               
in   agreement  that   that  point   would  make   it  completely                                                               
unworkable, and they  would all voice opposition  if that portion                                                               
were included.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0317                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA remarked  that  she  has recently  learned                                                               
that  personnel  in a  few  of  the  nursing  homes in  her  area                                                               
[Anchorage]  make  trips  to  foreign  countries  to  get  staff,                                                               
because there  is such  a shortage.   She asked  what is  done in                                                               
situations  like that  and if  there  is any  kind of  reciprocal                                                               
information exchange with foreign countries.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAND  replied  that  as  for  the  person's  background  and                                                               
criminal  history,  that  question   may  be  better  suited  for                                                               
licensing.   He added that these  people are subject to  the same                                                               
background checks; however, the  availability of that information                                                               
would seemingly be difficult, although it is ascertainable.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked where the bill is going next.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.HAND  stated   that  it  is   going  to  [the   House  Finance                                                               
Committee].   He explained that  it is actually referred  to [the                                                               
House Judiciary  Standing Committee] next; however,  the chairman                                                               
has waived it in lieu of a new House finance Committee referral.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Mr.  Hand how  he would  feel about  adding on                                                               
page  3, line  13, after  "volunteers,"  "new hires  from out  of                                                               
state or out  of country,".  He stated that  this establishes the                                                               
duty of the administrator to take care of it.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAND responded  that he  sees no  [problem with  adding that                                                               
language].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA remarked  that  she thinks  this is  worth                                                               
investigating.   She  stated that  she has  heard some  folks who                                                               
have relatives  in nursing  homes say that  when they  looked for                                                               
nursing homes they discovered that  the people who appeared to be                                                               
most  concerned  about  the  elderly  were  in  fact  from  other                                                               
countries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ELMER LINDSTROM,  Special Assistant, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Health & Social  Services, remarked that  there is                                                               
parallel language  relative to assisted living  [homes] beginning                                                               
on page 5, line  31.  He stated that he does  not think that this                                                               
would be a meaningless amendment.   The licensing agency would go                                                               
into a nursing  home or an assisted living home  and will want to                                                               
see concrete evidence of policy  procedures that have been put in                                                               
place to implement that section.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0740                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA   made  a   motion  to   adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, adding, after "volunteers,"  on page 3, line 13, and                                                               
on  page 6,  line 1,  "new hires  from out  of state  and out  of                                                               
country,".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  made a  motion to  adopt the  proposed CS                                                               
for HB 124, version 22-LS008\P,  Lauterbach, 4/5/01.  There being                                                               
no objection, Version P was before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA repeated  her motion  to adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.   There being  no objection, Conceptual  Amendment 1                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0890                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  referred  to the  emergency  involuntary                                                               
termination of contract on page  8, which states, "with less than                                                               
30 days' notice".   He asked if the less than  30 days could mean                                                               
immediately, for example, if somebody becomes violent.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAND responded  that it  is not  necessarily immediate.   He                                                               
stated that  this deals with the  termination of a contract.   If                                                               
someone  were to  grow violent  in  a home,  he or  she could  be                                                               
removed  immediately.   The  home could  then  move forward  with                                                               
terminating the  person's contract,  which could take  [as little                                                               
as] 72 hours.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL asked if  the receivership of the assisted                                                               
living home, referenced  on page 12, Section 15, has  been run by                                                               
the assisted living home organization.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAND  answered  that  it  has  been  a  point  of  extensive                                                               
discussion; however,  not everyone  agrees with  how it  has been                                                               
written.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1049                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALISON ELGEE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of Administration,  came  forth and  stated that  the                                                               
receivership provision is a very  last recourse and would only be                                                               
used if  there were  no other  alternatives.   One of  the things                                                               
heard from  some of  the assisted  living administrators  is that                                                               
maybe it could be limited from  a size standpoint.  However, this                                                               
is a  situation in which there  is not any other  capacity in the                                                               
community to  deal with a  long-term care situation.   She stated                                                               
that  the first  choice, if  there were  problems with  the home,                                                               
would be  to relocate  the residents from  the home  into another                                                               
environment  and not  to  take  over the  operation  of the  home                                                               
itself.  She added  that if there is a small  home in a community                                                               
where that is  the only home, this may take  a little longer than                                                               
if it were a home in  a community with a variety of alternatives.                                                               
She  remarked   that  this  provides   some  protection   to  the                                                               
administrators of these assisted  living homes, because it brings                                                               
a neutral third  party into it.  The licensing  agency would have                                                               
to go to  court to demonstrate that it has  exhausted every other                                                               
possibility in  terms of remedying  the problems of  the assisted                                                               
living home operations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Number 1138                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL made  a motion to move the CS  for HB 124,                                                               
22-LS0087\P, Lauterbach, 4/5/01, as  amended, from committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the attached  zero fiscal  note.                                                               
There  being no  objection, CSHB  124(HES) moved  from the  House                                                               
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                       

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